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	<title>Comments on: School Pot Calling Homeschool Kettle Black - Acceptance is not taught in school</title>
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	<description>Where Education and Parenting Collide</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.justenoughblog.com/?p=1735&cpage=1#comment-20522</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this blog post 100 %. One more way in which it's obvious that the public schools don't teach acceptance is the pressure that's put on kids to all be identical. Everybody has to look the same, dress the same, think the same, and woe betide any student who differs in any respect.
.-= Chris&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://homeschool-college.blogspot.com/2010/08/save-money-on-textbooks.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Save Money on Textbooks&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this blog post 100 %. One more way in which it&#8217;s obvious that the public schools don&#8217;t teach acceptance is the pressure that&#8217;s put on kids to all be identical. Everybody has to look the same, dress the same, think the same, and woe betide any student who differs in any respect.<br />
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		<title>By: aaron shaw phd</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron shaw phd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really enjoyed your article
.-= aaron shaw phd&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://www.babyanimals.info/2009/11/baby-animals-of-day-baby-porcupine_6596.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Baby Animals of the Day! Baby Porcupine!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoyed your article<br />
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		<title>By: tracey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fairly new homeschooling mom of 3 (we only pulled our eldest 2 out of public school last spring), I still feel we are deschooling not only our own family but also everyone else around us. The main thing that astounds me though, is how quickly everyone else assumes that if I have a problem with my kids because of homeschooling, that I must need to "send them back" to public school. As if the reasons we pulled them out have disappeared? 

Over the past few weeks, as I worked as a judge for high school speech meets, I got the experience to speak candidly with many high school teachers. They, of course, all had strong opinions on homeschooling, some favorable; others, not so much. But the main feeling I got from every one of them was that they are not ALLOWED to teach anymore. They are not allowed to fail students that don't apply themselves. They are not allowed to think outside of the box or to help students who are academically faster/slower than the system perceives "normal." And most of them? Most of them are so jaded and disgusted with the system that they ADMITTED to passing kids that didn't really apply themselves.

It only makes me all the more determined to make homeschooling work for my family.
.-= tracey&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://tracey-justanothermommyblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/just-another-sunday-fluff-post.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Just Another Sunday Fluff Post&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fairly new homeschooling mom of 3 (we only pulled our eldest 2 out of public school last spring), I still feel we are deschooling not only our own family but also everyone else around us. The main thing that astounds me though, is how quickly everyone else assumes that if I have a problem with my kids because of homeschooling, that I must need to &#8220;send them back&#8221; to public school. As if the reasons we pulled them out have disappeared? </p>
<p>Over the past few weeks, as I worked as a judge for high school speech meets, I got the experience to speak candidly with many high school teachers. They, of course, all had strong opinions on homeschooling, some favorable; others, not so much. But the main feeling I got from every one of them was that they are not ALLOWED to teach anymore. They are not allowed to fail students that don&#8217;t apply themselves. They are not allowed to think outside of the box or to help students who are academically faster/slower than the system perceives &#8220;normal.&#8221; And most of them? Most of them are so jaded and disgusted with the system that they ADMITTED to passing kids that didn&#8217;t really apply themselves.</p>
<p>It only makes me all the more determined to make homeschooling work for my family.<br />
<span class="cluv"> tracey&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://tracey-justanothermommyblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/just-another-sunday-fluff-post.html" rel="nofollow">Just Another Sunday Fluff Post</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.justenoughblog.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: John McGeough</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McGeough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting post that is spot on right.  I am a teacher who spent an entire career in schools.  I started back when schools were still largely about supporting the family values of the community as well as upholding traditional values.  I started homeschooling about 10 years ago because of the problems that now exist in education.  Racially, schools are about the most divided insitutions you can find.  They wind up wth a diverse roll of names but the fact is the kids still segregate themselves. Further the values they kids get from other kids can be horrendous.  I would not have my own childen now in public school.  The language children hear is horrible.  Teachers are stressed to the max in dealing with kids who have huge problems themselves.  childen see fights between kids but also adults.  Now when I hear the word socialization I just laugh.  Socialization to what the current sex oriented, gang oriented culture that most public school kids have adopted.  I am in complete agreement with you... great post.  http://dailygraces.wordpress.com
.-= John McGeough&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://johnmcgeough.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/keeping-up-with-your-home-schooled-child-while-you-are-away/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Keeping up with your home schooled child while you are away…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting post that is spot on right.  I am a teacher who spent an entire career in schools.  I started back when schools were still largely about supporting the family values of the community as well as upholding traditional values.  I started homeschooling about 10 years ago because of the problems that now exist in education.  Racially, schools are about the most divided insitutions you can find.  They wind up wth a diverse roll of names but the fact is the kids still segregate themselves. Further the values they kids get from other kids can be horrendous.  I would not have my own childen now in public school.  The language children hear is horrible.  Teachers are stressed to the max in dealing with kids who have huge problems themselves.  childen see fights between kids but also adults.  Now when I hear the word socialization I just laugh.  Socialization to what the current sex oriented, gang oriented culture that most public school kids have adopted.  I am in complete agreement with you&#8230; great post.  <a href="http://dailygraces.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://dailygraces.wordpress.com</a><br />
<span class="cluv"> John McGeough&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://johnmcgeough.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/keeping-up-with-your-home-schooled-child-while-you-are-away/" rel="nofollow">Keeping up with your home schooled child while you are away…</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.justenoughblog.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liese4</title>
		<link>http://www.justenoughblog.com/?p=1735&cpage=1#comment-8319</link>
		<dc:creator>Liese4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to post twice, seems I'm too verbose. I have a blog here: http://highlandshomeschool.homeschooljournal.net/ 

She's just a naive girl, she says in another post that she agrees that learning needs to happen by activity, not by rote. Not sure how she's going to do that with a gaggle of 4th/5th graders. 

I told my HS group to go leave a comment about the 'disadvantages' part, but to be gentle since it's her first encounter to the dark side...I mean homeschooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to post twice, seems I&#8217;m too verbose. I have a blog here: <a href="http://highlandshomeschool.homeschooljournal.net/" rel="nofollow">http://highlandshomeschool.homeschooljournal.net/</a> </p>
<p>She&#8217;s just a naive girl, she says in another post that she agrees that learning needs to happen by activity, not by rote. Not sure how she&#8217;s going to do that with a gaggle of 4th/5th graders. </p>
<p>I told my HS group to go leave a comment about the &#8216;disadvantages&#8217; part, but to be gentle since it&#8217;s her first encounter to the dark side&#8230;I mean homeschooling.</p>
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		<title>By: M Green</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tammy, I just want to take the time to say that as always, this is a well written, well thought out piece, and I truly appreciate what you have to say (I realize that probably has a LOT to do with the fact that I usually agree with everything you have to say). 

Liese4-
I LOVE your response, and it did post over on the other blog.  I agree with Tammy, you should also have your own blog.  I'd certainly read it.  

-M Green</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tammy, I just want to take the time to say that as always, this is a well written, well thought out piece, and I truly appreciate what you have to say (I realize that probably has a LOT to do with the fact that I usually agree with everything you have to say). </p>
<p>Liese4-<br />
I LOVE your response, and it did post over on the other blog.  I agree with Tammy, you should also have your own blog.  I&#8217;d certainly read it.  </p>
<p>-M Green</p>
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		<title>By: Zayna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zayna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tammy, 

It's been awhile since I've been here. It seems I have a lot of catching up to do.

Great article. 

Looks like things are going really well for you, congrats.

Sheri H.
Ottawa, Canada
.-= Zayna&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://zaynasgarden.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/another-dead-deadline/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Another Dead Deadline&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tammy, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been awhile since I&#8217;ve been here. It seems I have a lot of catching up to do.</p>
<p>Great article. </p>
<p>Looks like things are going really well for you, congrats.</p>
<p>Sheri H.<br />
Ottawa, Canada<br />
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it Tammy, you honed in on the essential point (highlighted with the perfect photo):

"Schools don’t teach acceptance, and the proof is in how many school kids and people who went to school can’t accept homeschoolers."

I know that many young people go into teaching because they have exactly what it takes. They're brimming with enthusiasm, curiosity and the ability to see a child's unique gifts. But these exact qualities are nearly impossible to sustain in a school system based on judgment.
.-= Laura&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href="http://lauragraceweldon.com/2009/11/10/you%E2%80%99re-gonna-fall-so-laugh/" rel="nofollow"&gt;You’re Gonna Fall, So Laugh&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it Tammy, you honed in on the essential point (highlighted with the perfect photo):</p>
<p>&#8220;Schools don’t teach acceptance, and the proof is in how many school kids and people who went to school can’t accept homeschoolers.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know that many young people go into teaching because they have exactly what it takes. They&#8217;re brimming with enthusiasm, curiosity and the ability to see a child&#8217;s unique gifts. But these exact qualities are nearly impossible to sustain in a school system based on judgment.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Laura&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://lauragraceweldon.com/2009/11/10/you%E2%80%99re-gonna-fall-so-laugh/" rel="nofollow">You’re Gonna Fall, So Laugh</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.justenoughblog.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liese, do you have a blog? This would make an excellent blog post. If you don't have a blog, high time you get one. Need you out there with us :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liese, do you have a blog? This would make an excellent blog post. If you don&#8217;t have a blog, high time you get one. Need you out there with us <img src='http://www.justenoughblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Liese4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to leave this comment on her blog, but it won't let me....hmmmm.....

Disadvantages of Home Schooling

• Time Restraints 
• Financial Restraints
• Being with your children “24/7”
• Limited Activities
 
As a homeschooler I'd like to go over these. But first, you've never met any homeschoolers? Really? You have led a very sheltered life. There are homeschoolers everywhere. Next time you see a mom with her kids at the library during 'school' hours, or at the grocery store, zoo, museum; ask them if they homeschool, I bet they do. 
 
Time restraints: believe it or not, it takes much less time for me to find out what my children need to learn and to implement it than it does for a teacher who is having to come up with work for 30 kids (and maybe even in just 1 subject area!) I have 4 children who have always been homeschooled, they are 15 (10th grade), 10 (5th), 7 (2nd) and 4 (Pre-K). I labeled them that way because if you've never met a homeschooler then you probably don't know that a child can be in any grade if you homeschool. They can be at, above or below grade level in any subject and we can teach to their strengths and weaknesses instead of pushing them ahead or dragging them along. Since I have never worked (which I'll go into next) and have always been a stay at home, home educating mom I'm not sure what you mean by 'lives are turned upside down'. Homeschooling is life, life is school so there is no life turned upside down. We school when and where we want and though we have a structure to what we learn, it is flexible. Yeah, life happens, kids go to the ER, people get sick, people die, car wrecks happen - that's why homeschooling is so great, it is flexible to wrap around any life event.
 
Financial restraints: okay I have only worked outside of the home before I had children, so about 2 years of my married life I worked. But then I had a son and yes, a baby changes everything; except, we had already determined that I would stay home and that we were going to homeschool. Whew! Two major items off the list I didn't have to worry about. Most homeschoolers can live off one income and here's a secret - most people can live off one income. There are things we can do without and things we don't need to live.
 
Being with your children 24/7: this is always brought up in regards to homeschooling and I have to tell you, if you hate your kids then yeah, it will suck to be around them 24/7. But, most homeschoolers don't despise their children, they don't want a break from them, they don't need someone else to teach them. I hear all the time about how patient I must be to homeschool my kids, that has nothing to do with it. I love them and though there are days when I pull my hair out, I don't ever want to send them away somewhere.
 
Limited activities: this one makes me crack up. If you don't know any homeschoolers then you don't know that we have this thing called 'socialization' licked. "Your child will not be able to join a school sports team or club. Also school related activities such as dances and events will not be in the cards for them. This can cause friendship restraints." Sorry to disappoint, we have a HS sports team (not to mention the rec center teams and church teams) for sports. Club? We have a drama club, speaking club, game night club.....Dances, events? Do you mean like Christmas parties, skate parties, Valentines parties, etc? We have that too. Personally in my family of 6 we: have worship dance every Monday, have Civil Air patrol every Monday, have park day every Wednesday, have girl scout meetings the 1st and 3rd Fridays, have presentation club once a month, volunteer at the library every Friday, volunteer at the airplane museum a few times a month or more on special occasions, have an exceptional kids meeting once a month, we also do co-ops with our homeschool group (I just had one Tuesday about US government), field trips with our homeschool group and family field trips (many times a month), plus Teacher's night out twice a month (that's for mom's only), Bible study twice a month (for mom), church on Sundays and I think that's it. It's not just me (although I admit I do a lot) homeschoolers are in book clubs, soccer teams, they take trips to the museum, do service projects (our group just sent 144 butterflies to the Houston holocaust museum), have park days, and on and on. There are some homeschoolers who are more homebodies than others, just like there are some public schoolers who don't want to be involved in sports or team activities (no one calls them un-socialized!)
 
So that's just my one homeschooling opinion and you can add it in to your pro's list if you want. Find some homeschoolers to interview, you'll find they range from shy to outgoing, active to passive, political to religious, busy to quiet and everything in-between - just like 'real' people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to leave this comment on her blog, but it won&#8217;t let me&#8230;.hmmmm&#8230;..</p>
<p>Disadvantages of Home Schooling</p>
<p>• Time Restraints<br />
• Financial Restraints<br />
• Being with your children “24/7”<br />
• Limited Activities</p>
<p>As a homeschooler I&#8217;d like to go over these. But first, you&#8217;ve never met any homeschoolers? Really? You have led a very sheltered life. There are homeschoolers everywhere. Next time you see a mom with her kids at the library during &#8217;school&#8217; hours, or at the grocery store, zoo, museum; ask them if they homeschool, I bet they do. </p>
<p>Time restraints: believe it or not, it takes much less time for me to find out what my children need to learn and to implement it than it does for a teacher who is having to come up with work for 30 kids (and maybe even in just 1 subject area!) I have 4 children who have always been homeschooled, they are 15 (10th grade), 10 (5th), 7 (2nd) and 4 (Pre-K). I labeled them that way because if you&#8217;ve never met a homeschooler then you probably don&#8217;t know that a child can be in any grade if you homeschool. They can be at, above or below grade level in any subject and we can teach to their strengths and weaknesses instead of pushing them ahead or dragging them along. Since I have never worked (which I&#8217;ll go into next) and have always been a stay at home, home educating mom I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8216;lives are turned upside down&#8217;. Homeschooling is life, life is school so there is no life turned upside down. We school when and where we want and though we have a structure to what we learn, it is flexible. Yeah, life happens, kids go to the ER, people get sick, people die, car wrecks happen - that&#8217;s why homeschooling is so great, it is flexible to wrap around any life event.</p>
<p>Financial restraints: okay I have only worked outside of the home before I had children, so about 2 years of my married life I worked. But then I had a son and yes, a baby changes everything; except, we had already determined that I would stay home and that we were going to homeschool. Whew! Two major items off the list I didn&#8217;t have to worry about. Most homeschoolers can live off one income and here&#8217;s a secret - most people can live off one income. There are things we can do without and things we don&#8217;t need to live.</p>
<p>Being with your children 24/7: this is always brought up in regards to homeschooling and I have to tell you, if you hate your kids then yeah, it will suck to be around them 24/7. But, most homeschoolers don&#8217;t despise their children, they don&#8217;t want a break from them, they don&#8217;t need someone else to teach them. I hear all the time about how patient I must be to homeschool my kids, that has nothing to do with it. I love them and though there are days when I pull my hair out, I don&#8217;t ever want to send them away somewhere.</p>
<p>Limited activities: this one makes me crack up. If you don&#8217;t know any homeschoolers then you don&#8217;t know that we have this thing called &#8217;socialization&#8217; licked. &#8220;Your child will not be able to join a school sports team or club. Also school related activities such as dances and events will not be in the cards for them. This can cause friendship restraints.&#8221; Sorry to disappoint, we have a HS sports team (not to mention the rec center teams and church teams) for sports. Club? We have a drama club, speaking club, game night club&#8230;..Dances, events? Do you mean like Christmas parties, skate parties, Valentines parties, etc? We have that too. Personally in my family of 6 we: have worship dance every Monday, have Civil Air patrol every Monday, have park day every Wednesday, have girl scout meetings the 1st and 3rd Fridays, have presentation club once a month, volunteer at the library every Friday, volunteer at the airplane museum a few times a month or more on special occasions, have an exceptional kids meeting once a month, we also do co-ops with our homeschool group (I just had one Tuesday about US government), field trips with our homeschool group and family field trips (many times a month), plus Teacher&#8217;s night out twice a month (that&#8217;s for mom&#8217;s only), Bible study twice a month (for mom), church on Sundays and I think that&#8217;s it. It&#8217;s not just me (although I admit I do a lot) homeschoolers are in book clubs, soccer teams, they take trips to the museum, do service projects (our group just sent 144 butterflies to the Houston holocaust museum), have park days, and on and on. There are some homeschoolers who are more homebodies than others, just like there are some public schoolers who don&#8217;t want to be involved in sports or team activities (no one calls them un-socialized!)</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s just my one homeschooling opinion and you can add it in to your pro&#8217;s list if you want. Find some homeschoolers to interview, you&#8217;ll find they range from shy to outgoing, active to passive, political to religious, busy to quiet and everything in-between - just like &#8216;real&#8217; people!</p>
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